Bad Batch (Spoilers)

The Bad Batch is out!

My thoughts:

Excellent. Very very good. And the first episode is quite long, about 75 minutes.

I am rather peeved that they decided to bring in Kanan Jarrus in the opening scene, however. “It’s a small world, after all” is not the kind of Star Wars I like, especially when it violates previously established official canon, or at least skates unnecessarily close to the line. I would have preferred it if they introduced new Jedi, or Jedi we didn’t see get deep (sixty-)sixed yet. Also, Kanan had a very deep voice. Too deep, methinks.

Aside from that… I liked the episode. A lot.
Darker, more serious, and the animation is phenomenal. Especially when compared to the Clone Wars movie, which was only 20 minutes longer. The jump in quality (story, acting, animation) is tremendous. Filoni knocked it out of the park again.

Points I like:
Wrecker has a Tooka doll. This seriously cracked me up.
Omega is a fun character, and still something of an enigma at this point. Hoping she continues to be as interesting as she has been so far.
The mess fight (pardon the pun): Isn’t this the most RPG thing to have happened? One character successfully defuses the situation, and then one of the players decides to screw it all up.
Lots of good intrigue in this as well. I’m hoping we get to see much more of the icky fish-heads, because as much as I don’t like them (for in-universe reasons), this is a very interesting facet of the story.
Seeing Saw slowly changing over time was also quite appealing.

Thoughts for the future:
Will Crosshair be redeemed? Can he even be? If he is, how? They’ll need to remove the inhibitor chip, which means they’ll need to find out about that. Can Tech do it on his own/with Omega’s help, or will they have to learn from someone? If so, who? Ahsoka? Rex? Will we see three free trio, or Rex in the process of freeing Wolffe and Gregor?
I’m a bit disappointed with how Rex’s inhibitor chip was handled in CW season 7. Based on Rebels, I was under the impression that he’d already removed his chip when order 66 came about, and so didn’t turn on Ahsoka because of that. I think that makes more sense and would have been a better way to handle it, but it’s not how they did it. However, it does open the window a bit more now, as it means Rex is probably still in the process of freeing Wolffe and Gregor and has probably not noped out entirely yet.

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Lol I didn’t realize who it was. To my defense, my 10 year old daughter was constantly making statements and speculations during the episode. :blush: I’m ok with it as long as we don’t keep seeing Kanan. I don’t want him to be a major character in this at all. If it was a one-off, then it’s cool seeing this moment in Kanan’s back story “on the screen”. But, I hope that was the end of it.

The Omega enigma. My first thought is force-sensitive clone. If this turns out to be the case, I’m conflicted of whether I like it. I don’t think the series needed yet another “Jedi” to be the hero. But, if there is somehow a tie-in to the future Baby Yoda /Cloning the Emperor project, then I might like that. Some background and further explanation on clones being infused with the force perhaps? Omega was an early experiment? I don’t know if it’s a clue or not, but Omega often represents “The End” or “The Last”, since it’s the last letter of the Greek alphabet. :man_shrugging:

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Yes, loved the mess fight.

Can’t help while watching to map every action in the show to “what Difficulty would that have been?” or “how may Triumphs would have been necessary to make that shot?” (shooting the knife to ricochet into the target’s head, or shooting the rifle out of target’s hands ).

Yep, Omega is a force-sensitive clone.

Really great animation. Love the hyperspace stars in the eyes, even if it was a little cheesy. My daughter just rewatched entire TCW series, and was exclaiming at the rain, shadows, all the details in this.


Any sort of backup for that, or are you just saying it?

The knife thing was really dumb in my opinion. The other would just cost 3 Advantage/1 Triumph per the standard combat charts.

I’m avoiding this chat, youtube and facebook until it’s all done so I can binge watch it…

Omega thought is my theory, agreeing with @Sturn , and backed up by observations. She seemed to know that bad guys were coming through that door. She made 2 great blaster shots the first time she ever picked up a blaster. She seemed to know how Crosshair was feeling.

Agree that I loved the intrigue, in-group conflict. Voice acting is also great. My wife didn’t believe it was the same actor doing all the Batch voices, at first.

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All good observations, but at the same time “you’re angry” is not exactly an astute deduction (as Crosshair mentioned), and the others could be explained though heightened senses.
The Force-sensitive thing definitely crossed my mind, but I’m not convinced. Part of it is that I hope she isn’t, and that’s there’s a more interesting bio-engineering reason for it. Like maybe she has some of the abilities of the Bad Batch, and we’ll slowly get to start seeing that she’s superhuman as time goes on. Mostly I’m just hoping she isn’t Force-sensitive because I think we’ve seen enough of that.

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I enjoyed seeing Kanan in the beginning. I was a little annoyed that they used the same voice as they used in Rebels because it makes a 15-17-year-old sound 34 but other than that was an excellent episode.
I’m not going to lie I hate Crosshair so I’m kind of glad that they made him bad (no pun intended), as it really suits his character.
Omega is another thing. I’m thinking that her only genetic mutation is that she is female and an awesome medic. A cool idea for a character, we shall see how she plays out.


Being female isn’t necessarily a mutation, being a “clone” doesn’t mean she’s a Jango clone. I’m hoping she isn’t (and I doubt she is), because she looks so dramatically different. Plus, I’ve had the idea of a rogue Kaminoan scientist creating a female clone of Jango flitting around in my robo-brain for a while now, and finally decided to put it on (digi-)paper yesterday, so I don’t want it to look like I stole the idea from a Disney show…

Sorry, too loud. Cut Lawquane is back!
This is the best episode of… well, anything that I’ve seen in a long while, but I may be a bit biased since this is the sort of story that really strikes the right chords for me.
Absolutely zero complaints about this one, except possibly that the Nexu’s head was too narrow, but that can be chalked up to the animation style.

I greatly enjoy Hunter as a father. That’s going to be very interesting to see develop. There aren’t enough shows with good fathers, I’m hoping this is one of them. Interesting how Filoni went from Mando becoming a dad to Baby Yoda to now Hunter becoming a dad to Omega. I also like how in The Mandalorian, Mando had to give up Baby Yoda for his own good, and in The Bad Batch Hunter had to make the same choice, although Omega showed up at the end anyway.

Everything in this episode was great, from the updated ages for Shaeeah and Jek to the updated outfits for Suu and Cut. Oh, and they name-dropped Rex.
I’m also incredibly relieved they didn’t kill off Cut.

That brings up an interesting tool for creating suspense. I was pretty certain that Omega and the Bad Batch were in no real danger because they’re the main characters, but introducing NPCs (yeah, I said it) alongside them opens the possibility that something could happen to them, and that becomes very suspenseful.

One other thing: I absolutely love the chain codes. I don’t know who came up with that idea, but they deserve a raise and a medal. I imagine the Empire has something like the Chinese social credit system, which introduces all sorts of interesting stories. I actually started using chain codes in one of my games (in the proper time period) as soon as I heard of them, and it’s been a great opportunity.

I’m really fascinated to see the show develop from here. It’s been great so far, and there are so many things to look forward to.

Post-post script: Poor Echo. He had about a 50% chance of beating that boot with his Computers check, but failed seven rounds in a row. :(

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Loved the parenting scenes, and that the mom’s the crack shot and the dad’s the comforting one. Both my daughter and I said to one another, “Have we ever seen good parenting in Star Wars?” It was refreshing!

Agreed I was never afraid for the mains, but the side chars I was concerned about. Thought they were going to arrest them, or worse, kill them off to force Omega to go with the Batch, but I like the way they went by giving Omega the choice.

I so expected her to do something with her head amulet. Thought it was going to be a crystal, or a computer chip, or something. That may come later.

Was this the first time we’ve see human-Twilek cross-breeds?

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Was this the first time ships had to be registered? Or is that just a local thing on that planet? Wasn’t BOSS around before then?

No, and we still haven’t. Shaeeah and Jek were in the original Cut Lawquane episode, and they aren’t his biological children, they’re far too old for that. They’d have to be roughly two years old for that to be the case.

That dichotomy isn’t quite true. Cut is also a crack shot (seeing as he is a clone trooper after all). In the original episode (The Deserter), Cut fends off waves of malfunctioning commando droids. As for “the comforting one,” that’s a responsibility shared by both parents, as it should be. That side of Cut was just highlighted for Hunter’s benefit as it wouldn’t have the same impact if it were Suu. I suggest you watch The Deserter if you haven’t (or just rewatch it), it’s a really good episode and one of my favorites.

It probably isn’t local. I’d guess it’s the Empire overhauling the system, but it could be Disney changing the canon.

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