Book of Boba Fett [Spoilers]

Way to ignore the substance of all of my arguments, completely miss my points, and then screw up the timeline of how it all transpired. I think I’ve been pretty clear and made my point clear to the others. If you don’t get it or are willfully side-stepping in order to “win,” that’s on you. I’m done, with a final shot:

No, NOT logical fallacies. Whether it is broadly accepted or not is THE POINT.

Appeals to popularity are logical fallacies by definition, but putting that aside, I understand this is the point for you, but it is not for me. Obviously.

To me, whether it is broadly accepted or not is largely irrelevant, or only of tertiary importance. I have seen no substantial arguments that really changes that, the appeals to popularity and relatedly the risks of fan pathos not withstanding. I appreciate that this is important to you, but it is not and cannot be important to me. Star Wars and its universe are too dear to me.

This isn’t about winning, so I’ll leave you be.

Apologies.

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I noticed the Bacta color but felt very minor to me. I wonder why the change, not overly put out by it though.

Loved the Tusken dress, this is confirmation that it varies from tribe to tribe. Reading the Kenobi book was also a good look into Tuskens. There was one Tribe War-chief who was a female called Plug-eye. She wore similar robes to that of a man.

Overall I foubd the episode OK. But certainly not of Mandalorian quality

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I forgot that. Has been a while. But I agree, more depth and insights into tusken raiders are nice. I always found them intriguing.

Yeah, not entirely the same level of intro, but pretty cool in-sarlacc scene. Nice to have it canonised.

Honestly? I don’t think many people put terribly much thought or concern into the question of, “What color is bacta?” Different forms of media have different visual shorthands. In, for example, comics and video games, clear liquids - particularly water - are often colored blue because, on white paper or on screens, attempting to show a clear liquid ends up with the “clear” being white, so it looks like milk, or if in a container with the background drawn through (like a bacta tank) looks like air. And we’ve all looked at stunning beach photos and remarked about the “beautiful blue water” which is, of course, really clear. (Aquaman even once had an “underwater camouflage” costume of blues and white which, under clear water, would still be just as visible as his traditional orange and green. The costume only “worked” in context of comics coloring conventions.)

By that same token, though, if you ask people, “What color are ion blasts?” you’ll also get an answer of “blue,” thanks to video games using the color to distinguish them from starship blaster fire at a glance, taking inspiration from the blue electrical arcing shown on objects hit by them, be it a droid like Artoo or a Star Destroyer.

The first bacta we ever saw was translucent, with a bit of a blue, white, or completely clear look depending on the lighting. Later, the tank is seen in the background with a red color. (Drained? hard to tell.) Vader’s tank in Rogue One appeared cloudy, which I always presumed was a result of that batch’s prolonged use…skin, toxins, and other debris from the body fouling the liquid. Finn’s bacta suit was leaking clear liquid.

Seems to me an odd thing to get hung up on, but then I’m the one who just wrote three paragraphs about how it’s an odd thing to get hung up on, and a matter of different media conventions rather than inconsistency. :upside_down_face:

The Tusken thing just seems to be a simple matter that we’re seeing a different group within the larger culture. Not the first time we’ve seen it in Star Wars, and hopefully not the last.

Now, this is definitely me reading into things, but I drew a direct connection between the water pods and the “sand Goro,” like they’re maybe basically the thing’s eggs, which is why the pods were right around it.

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That’s a reasonable breakdown. I actually never made the connection between Vader’s tank and bacta until shortly before you mentioned it, because the contents were transluscent/white.
I just assumed it was his “stasis juice” or whatever since in Star Wars, those tanks don’t have to be bacta (I’m reminded of cloning vats in TRoS and Clone Wars).

I also remembered bacta as blue in the Clone Wars (but I couldn’t remember a particular episode so I didn’t want to mention it), but after checking (it was Destroy Malevolence), I realized that we were seeing the tanks through a blue-tinted window, leaving us none the better off.

I’m still of the opinion that bacta is/should be blue, but I was never really “hung up” on it. I noticed it as odd, and then it all got blown out of proportion.

It looked to me like an oversight, but maybe you’re right. I just don’t like seeing things that appear to be different for no reason. Similar concept to “meaningful choice,” an important concept in RPGs. Generally, if you tweak something about a particular culture, it’ll effect other things down the line or have been effected by something else in the first place. To seemingly be a standalone cosmetic choice strikes me as… odd.

I agree, sort of. They all seemed surprised by it, and if the youngling knew that the two were linked, I don’t think he’d have been so shocked (or so willing to just go for it). However, I think it’s likely that the “Sand Goro” was there because of the water pods. After all, it needs water too.

I’m just still very curious what they are, what they come from, and how they’re found. From all we know, they seem to just lie out in the middle of the desert randomly.
When we saw them in The Mandalorian, I thought they were just Tusken-devised drinking vessels, filled with some kind of brew (given the distasteful reaction by Cobb Vanth). Unless, perhaps those were and these are different.

Another option is that the water was stored for safekeeping by the Tuskens and they all went to retrieve it, but that’s probably the least likely since they can’t be guaranteed that it won’t be “stolen” by some animal (see: “Sand Goro”).

Well, we’ve seen one episode out of seven. Based on how he entered the scene in The Mandalorian, I think we’re going to see more of his time with the tribe. So, we don’t know yet that it’s “different for no reason” or “a standalone cosmetic choice.” It absolutely could be just a case of, “This is a group of Tuskens we’re going to spend extended time with, so we’re going to make them visually distinct,” or something genuinely different about them as opposed to the other Tuskens we’ve ever seen. This is, after all, from the same writer/Executive Producer who had people spending a year+ saying, “Whattaya mean, Mandalorians never take their helmets off? We saw 'em do it all the time in Clone Wars and Rebels!” only to verify that…yeah…it’s part of a different belief system among Mandalorians.

My first thought was eggs/direct offcast of some kind of the “sand Goro,” (we really need an official name for that thing :rofl: ) and that the pods’ presence doesn’t necessarily mean a Goro will be around. Being a bio-offshoot of the Goro (or some other Tatooine fauna) could account for Vanth’s reaction…or those pods could have been refilled with some vile stuff. Who knows? I don’t expect a show like The Book of Boba Fett to have someone turn to someone else and give us an on-screen explanation of the little details. That’s something that seems more in the purview of a Visual Dictionary (should one be produced for the show); all the show needs us to know is that there are water/liquid pods that can be found in the sand, that they appear to be found in quantities and locations that can be identified if you know what you’re looking for and harvested by hand, but contain a small enough volume that a pod is good for one or a small number of people for a short time and not adequate on their own to sustain a planetary population.

All fair. And yeah, I suppose we’ll probably see more of the Tuskens.

He hadn’t left them yet, right? We’ll probably at least see how he ended up with the gaffi stick and rifle, and perhaps he’ll return to ask their help? That seems unlikely, though. The Tuskens don’t strike me as the sort to get involved in “local politics” even if a friend of theirs is.

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Regarding the pods, I was thinking they were some sort of variation of a cactus. A realworld cactus can be a source of water. These small pods are the same, since they collect moisture from the ground. They can’t grow deep, since they rely on the moisture from Tatooine’s atmosphere, like a natural water vaporator. Perhaps the connection of the pods close to the surface to collect moisture gives a slight sign (discoloration in the sand?) so the Tusken child knew where to dig?

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Well, looks like I’m a little late for the party. Dang vacation.

I’d give it a solid 3/5. The flashbacks were a little drawn out but I did like them. I would’ve liked it better if the entire episode was a flashback and I sure hope that bacta time doesn’t become 15-minutes-of-flashback time every episode. The fight scene was kinda pathetic as Boba appears to be so weak when in Mandalorian he is such a “Boba” wrecking those stormtroopers on Tython.

Fennec was a good character. I enjoyed how she kept comparing everything Boba was doing with how Jabba ruled.

I’m excited about this series, but not if all the episodes are like this. Then again, it was a pilot episode.

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This is just getting better. While it was disappointingly short on the crime lord business, yet:

  • The Rancor-scare was fun.
  • The mayor could still be an interesting character
  • Seeing the twins was pretty cool.
  • Where this seems to be going is exciting

The exploration of the Tusken tribe was pretty amazing and made up for the shorter mafia-part by:

  • Being awesome
  • A train job
  • Training montages
  • Great action all over
  • Was that Tosche Station? It was reminiscent of the deleted b&w scenes from ANH, but different enough to be somewhere else.
  • The chieftain talking about the different tribes, hinting at their history, and their spirituality.
  • Being pretty darned cool all over.
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Just caught up on Ep1.

Who is this show even for and why did we get another gruffboi bounty hunter Tatooine-dwelling armor-wearer streaming series before exploring any other type of STAR WARS story?

I think the answer to all of that is probably just “Jon Favreau”, which, okay, I can think of worse answers.

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I went back and compared Tosche Station in New Hope deleted scenes. I believe it is Tosche Station in episode 2. The inside has been change a little but the front door entrance, glass partition and game table are all the same. Even the human male and female are very similar to the people Luke meets there with Biggs.

The second point I want to make. I love the black haired Wookie bounty hunter/ body guard for the Twins. He looks very impressive and bad ass. I believe he is in some of the star wars comics, which I haven’t read. I look forward for Boba Fett meeting the Wookie again.

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This episode was much better than the last one, and I enjoyed the last one already.

The rancor-scare only makes sense to me under one condition: The mayor was telling the truth.
I can see why the assassin would be more concerned over the rancor than just getting his throat slit, but enough to make someone trained to resist torture (obviously, hence 8D8’s “he’ll never talk”) talk?
No, if he was going to talk, I don’t think he’d tell the truth.
If the mayor was telling the truth, then that’s good writing and I appreciate it.

The brain lizard. The moment I saw it, I knew straight where it was going: up his nose like a brain worm. Man was that trippy.

Also, the bacta seemed blue from outside the tank this time. I think it may simply be a matter of perspective. Previously, we weren’t seeing it through the glass and thus also in not as large a quantity. The more of a liquid you have, the more apparent its color. While bacta has elsewhere been portrayed as quite clearly a distinctive shade of blue, perhaps this is a “live action compromise” that I can get behind. Plus, getting something that distinctive a shade that is also see-through in real-life is probably pretty difficult.

I am a little concerned with, as @BrickSteelhead pointed out, the similarities to The Mandalorian, but mostly as regards the flashbacks sequences. The rest of the similarities, meh. It’s different enough, even while similar.

I’d have preferred it if they just started out with the “flashbacks” or else dedicated a couple episodes in the middle (maybe 2 and 3) to them instead of seemingly spreading them out. When it isn’t about a character “discovering himself (literally),” occasional flashbacks throughout a story don’t make much sense, with one exception: PTSD. In that situation, it does make sense, but would be handled differently than it is here.

Fennec Shand referenced “dreams” and we get the flashbacks when he’s in bacta, but the sequential nature of them doesn’t make much sense. They aren’t shown like they’re flashbacks he’s having, making the point rather moot. I think it would make more sense if they showed us the history upfront, and then, like they did, reference dreams in “real time.”
You can also have very short—more dream-like—sequences showing more specifically what exactly he’s “dreaming” about.

The whole “crime lord”-thing is really heating up, and I’m enjoying that. The cameo of Black Krrsantan was nice, and I hope to see more of him later on. His backstory and appearance is very cool, and I’m interested to see what they do with him.

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That’s awesome! That they look similar, perhaps they are the same people? That would be cool.

Aye, the Wookiee was tough and cool looking. He looks like the one from the comics, but he’s lacking the cybernetic stuff (I believe)scar(s), I believe… but it would be cool if it was him.

I stand corrected, it is Black Krrsantan (according to Wookiepedia).

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Besides Wookieepedia (they probably mentioned his name in the credits), I’m pretty sure. He was supposed to be super rare as a black-furred wookiee, so making another one who dresses similarly would be a very odd choice.

I don’t really remember anything about cybernetics since I never read much of the comics, but any scars are probably just more subtle in live-action.

Can we at least agree to call them “flashbactas”?

(Credit to the Star Wars Minute guys.)

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It was indeed Camie and Fixer at Tosche Station. As Star Wars Explained put it, that was fan service done right - if you know who/where they are: bonus! If not, it’s a place on Tatooine with regular people being bullied by the swoop gang, which is all you really need.

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I thought they looked familiar… For whatever reason. But I couldn’t place it.

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Understandable enough, since they had to be recast. Koo Stark and Anthony Forrest are over 40 years older these days. ;)

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